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tgrtrax
02-18-2009, 01:59 PM
so has anyone made a kaiser deck that is any good? i have a friend who wants a kaiser deck.....i am thinking banker/gear banker to stall/clear the way then swing with kiser FTW? i am using all sets but i am light on the seeds and kinda picked on other sets for some cards (like limited liability and postmortem) of all things. oh and using banker to get resources.....any thoughts or ideas?....
also we ran a 6 man last night here in atlanta anyone near us feel free to shoot me a message they are free but prizes are only shiny cards for now...but you get to play and meet new players....i am the only holdover in my group of about 10...
i will try to post a list when i am done making it....
thanks

ok done making it so here goes and remember i am light on some things and just dont have some because right now everyone is pulling from my stuff to make decks....


faction
tournament

resource
starting
2 greed
deck
12 elitism

characters
banker
4 key man
4 frisky fortunehunter
4 tax attorney
gearsmith
4 leoKaiser
4 pantherKaiser
4 tigerKaiser
2 contriving engineer

locations
banker
2 high court of demands

items
gearsmith
2 subversion matrix

tatics
banker
4 essence of greed
4 karmic cake
4 crushing usury
4 anesthetizing opulence
3 rate hike
2 postmortem debenture
2 limited liability
2 irresistible bribe
gearsmith
4 kaiser wave
2 repurpose


anything better? i will see if i have it but this is the best i could find of the things i have as far as i see....i thought about free trade agreement but didnt like to help them...gearsmith/haze/node rush would have killed me
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UtopiaTree
02-21-2009, 12:01 AM
In my opinion, Kaisers as a win condition are strictly inferior to almost any other win condition you can play. Leo Kaiser isn't good without the other two in play, and the other two are only mediocre alone. I remember, when I first started playing spoils, I bought a banker precon and played it against my friend's leo deck that he had gotten a bunch of rares for. it was even packing elite team registration. Every game, I either beat him or we drew.

tl;dr Kaisers aren't good, don't play with them.


edit: just noticed that you're playing rate hike in your build. That is the worst card in the game. If you want some simple life gain, play Flabbergasting Philosopher or something. Rate Hike is just plain a weak card.

tgrtrax
02-21-2009, 12:34 AM
how about at the end of turn i will draw a card oh and by the way i gain 2 influence thats not so bad...seems like not too bad....and if i dont get the 3 kaiser combo i still can swing with one and wave him for a +3 that aint bad.....but your right i think kaiser is not the best....as i said this is for someone who just wants to run kaiser cause he likes them.....with that in mind play the deck if you have mws see how it runs then look for suggestions....
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bic
02-21-2009, 04:05 PM
Rate Hike = PURE CRAP

earley207
02-22-2009, 09:30 AM
Tgrtrax, trying to avoid being harsh, but consider where you posted this deck? This is the competitive deck forum, if this is a just because you like the idea of running the kaisers, then post it in casual deck building.

My two cents worth: there is too much spot removal for cheap available for this deck to run in anything but a casual setting.

tgrtrax
02-22-2009, 11:12 AM
casual deck building would have been better was not thinking about where the post was but it got people talking.....lol....again i am not playing this deck.... i do not think it is good enough to win.....it is for a friend who wants to run kaisers.....that being said i have the deck right now and i am playing it against local people...all of them new to the game......and it is doing fairly well.....the deck could...see i say could....get a top 8 with the right person running it and some tweeking......lol sproring in place of kaiser....but no even running kaiser....it holds swarm off fairly well because of life gain yes not alot of life gain but you dont need much before you get stable then kill....sproing is not a problem because you just kill it off....the real problem i have is mono rogue and mono arcanist bounce is a pain so is jack your dead sh!t that i put there....oh and if anyone wants to show that the decks really suck come to atlanta and play show these boys how a real player builds and plays.....really want me to open a can of worms i will say AH is a good deck and really defend it....on this forum....
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tgrtrax
01-13-2010, 10:18 AM
just to get this to the top i post here
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